My maternal grandfather, Harry Freedman (1895-1967), made dolls for a living. It was a pretty good living: he supported my grandmother, my mother, and her sister pretty nicely right through the Great Depression and World War II, and they all came out the other side in good shape and went on to live comfortable lives. Grandpa Harry—sometimes HF when I was little—eventually got both his sons-in-law and a couple of nieces’ husbands jobs after World War II and supported or subsidized, unbeknownst to the rest of his family until after his death, other relatives and in-laws who had fallen on hard times. Harry was a good businessman, investing in or starting several other concerns in addition to the doll company—but he was also a soft touch. I recently learned from a cousin on my dad’s side that after my mother and father were married, my other grandfather, Jack (1890-1963), who was a pharmacist, was in danger of losing his Manhattan drugstore; I believe the landlord had raised the rent—a problem that still frequently occurs today.
When my
mother’s parents met my father’s folks after my future parents were engaged,
the family lore is that Harry and my paternal grandmother, Lena, immediately
adored each other. (I never knew
Lena—she died before I was three years old—but my mother always told me that she
was the nicest person ever. She couldn’t
cook worth a damn, Mom told me—except one dish: stuffed cabbage—but she never
had a bad word to say about anyone, even the worst good-for-nothing in the family
circle! Harry, on the other hand, who
was only 5' 5" tall, was known by his business colleagues as “Little
Caesar” (no connection to the pizza business, started in 1959, but may have
been a reference to the character played by Edward G. Robinson—who was 5' 7"—in
the 1931 movie of that title.) Out of
this inter-family affection, Grandpa Harry bought the building in which Grandpa
Jack (JL when I was a boy) had his pharmacy.
Jack, and I presume Lena, knew that Harry’d done this, but none of the
rest of either family did. (I learned
this from my cousin only about a year ago.
Jack had died in 1963 and Harry in 1967.)
(In a
curious coincidence, my Grandfather Jack’s drugstore was at 23rd Street and
Lexington Avenue in Manhattan, which is seven blocks north and a block-and-a-half
east of where I now live. I often pass
the site where the building stood—though it’s no longer the same
structure. My dad’s family even lived in
an apartment in the same building—“over the shop,” if you will—in the ’30s and
’40s, which is when my mom and dad met and became engaged. Furthermore, Grandpa Harry’s office, the
sales offices of Horsman Dolls, was in 200 Fifth Avenue, known as the Toy
Center South, at 23rd and Fifth, literally just up the street from my current
apartment, and 1½ blocks west of Jack’s drugstore. When I first moved to New York and Dad, the
family representative on the Horsman board, came up from Washington for board
meetings, we’d meet for lunch and if he stayed overnight in New York, he’d stay
at my apartment down Fifth Avenue from the Toy Center.)
Harry
was a World War I vet. He fought in
France and was wounded so that he was sent home shortly after Armistice Day (11
November 1918)—before most of the other Doughboys came back. (The family story was that when Harry’s
parents got the telegram informing them that their son had been wounded, it
read curtly: “Harry Freedman shot in buttocks.”
My grandfather’s family, not very knowledgeable about European geography—my
father’s parents were born abroad, but my mother’s family had been Americans
for several generations—and knowing only where Harry’d been fighting, pored
over the map of France looking for a place called “Buttocks”! I have no idea if this anecdote is
accurate—or even true—but that’s the story and I’m stickin’ to it.) And so, Harry came home, invalided out of the
service, at loose ends, and, having recovered from his wound, one of few
able-bodied young men in the States while the war was winding up in
Europe. He began looking for something
to do with his life.
Many
years earlier, when Harry was a boy and vehicles on New York City streets were
still drawn by horses, he was hit by a city garbage wagon and slightly
injured. As compensation for the
accident, the city paid him $10,000, a mighty sum in those days (about $280,000
today, calculating from 1905 when Harry’d have been 10). The money had been put aside for his future,
as people used to say, but now Harry, 23 when he
got back from France, decided it was time to put it to work and start that
future. The budding businessman started
looking for something worthy of his investment and he found a company: the
Regal Doll Manufacturing Company of New York City. Before the war, Regal was known as the German
American Doll Company; the reason for the name-change is pretty obvious, I
think. It was a going concern, with
plenty of orders and a busy factory on West Houston Street at the southern edge
of what is now NoHo, but it needed capital to buy raw materials to fill the
orders. So Harry bought into Regal Doll and became a partner, eventually taking over leadership of the business. After a few years, Regal Doll Manufacturing
changed its name again, becoming the Regal Doll Corporation.
Before
the 20th century, dolls in the U.S. were almost exclusively imported from
Europe, most frequently from Germany.
Even when American companies started manufacturing domestic products
just after the turn of the century, the materials were brought over from
Europe. World War I disrupted that
supply chain and the American doll manufacturers like Regal began making a
product based largely on local materials.
So when my grandfather invested his nest egg in Regal Doll, it was ripe
for success, and the company prospered, making a good-quality, popular-priced
doll.
A major
improvement came along as early as 1877: the composition doll. Made of a composite of sawdust, glue, and
such additives as cornstarch, resin, and wood flour (finely pulverized wood), composition
dolls had the great advantage of being unbreakable, and by the beginning of the
20th century, composition dolls were the most popular kind of doll on the
American market. Horsman (which would be
Regal’s successor) secured the rights to the process, which was the principal material
for dolls from about 1909 until World War II.
(The two dolls I mention below were composition dolls.)
In the
’30s, Regal made a 19-inch-tall doll with composition shoulders and head,
composition arms, partial composition legs, cloth stuffed body and stitched
hips. The head had molded, painted hair;
blue tin eyes; and a closed painted mouth.
The doll’s name? The Judy Girl
Doll. My mother’s name was Judith!
Later
that same decade, Regal marketed a 12-inch-tall all-composition doll with a jointed body and painted, molded hair; painted
blue eyes; and closed painted mouth that came in a cardboard carrying case with
a wardrobe and roller skates. (This doll
also came with “sleep” eyes, or “open-and-close”
eyes, and a mohair wig over
her molded hair.) This baby’s name? Bobby Anne.
My mother’s little sister was Roberta Ann, called Bobby.
By the
’30s, however, Regal’s Manhattan factory was no longer adequate for the growing
business and Harry went in search of larger facilities for his burgeoning
company.
He
found the Horsman Doll Company, the oldest doll-maker in the United States established
in New York City in 1865 by Edward Imeson (E. I.) Horsman (1843-1927). “No other company even comes close to its
record of longevity,” says a corporate description on Zoominfo. E. I. Horsman had
retired in the early years of the 20th century and turned the company, one of
the pioneers in the manufacture of American dolls, over to his son, but Edward,
Jr. (1873-1918), died suddenly at 45 and E.I. returned to the business. Then E. I. Horsman died in 1927 and the
previously greatly successful company fell into serious financial trouble. In
the early 1930s, the foundering company had built a large, but under-used
factory in the Chambersburg neighborhood of Trenton, New Jersey, so Regal bought
it for its new manufacturing base.
Having
already purchased Horsman’s newly-built Trenton plant, Regal Doll, now under
the direction of my grandfather and his chief salesman, Lawrence Lipson
(1896-1959), acquired the nearly bankrupt Horsman Doll in October 1933. The new leadership and Regal’s solid business
position revived the fortunes of Horsman (whose name was pronounced like horse-man and whose logo was a horse’s
head) and the new company continued to make dolls under both trade names, Regal
and Horsman. Regal produced a mid-level,
less-expensive doll, while Horsman’s product was a higher-quality doll at a
slightly higher (but still affordable) price. By 1937, however, Harry Freedman and Larry
Lipson realized that Horsman was the superior brand and in 1940, Regal Doll
formally became Horsman Doll and the Regal label disappeared from the market. (The present-day Regal Toy Company of
Toronto, Canada, is a different company unaffiliated with my grandfather’s business.)
At the
time of the purchase, my mother’s family moved from the Upper West Side of
Manhattan, where much of Harry’s family also lived, to Fisher Place on the
Delaware River in downtown Trenton so my grandfather could be near his business,
a scant three miles away. (The new
company’s business headquarters was still located in Manhattan—in the Toy
Center South, which had become a home base for the toy industry during World
War I.) Mom (1923-2015) lived in Trenton
from then until she was married (not counting prep school in Pennsylvania and
college in upstate New York), and my Aunt Bobby (1927-2006) stayed there after
marriage (to a man who became a Horsman VP and its in-house counsel) until she
and her husband separated in the ’50s.
My grandparents moved back to New York City after World War II, once
both daughters were married (my mother in January 1946 and Aunt Bobby in
November 1947), living at 68th and Fifth, across from Central Park. (I said the doll business provided Mom’s
family with a comfortable life, didn’t I?)
From
about 1880 to the end of the 1960s, the State of New Jersey was one of the
country’s most productive toy-making states.
With over 50 toy companies with names like Tyco (HO scale toy trains),
Lionel (model trains), J. Chein (mechanical toys), Remco (remote control toys), Topper
Toys (model cars and inexpensive dolls), Courtland (wind-up toys),
and Colorforms (creative toys) operating in the state, Regal and Horsman
weren’t alone in the Garden State. In
its heyday, Horsman’s Chambersburg plant was touted as the largest toy factory
in the United States. One block square,
at its peak the two-building, three-story brick complex at 350 Grand Street in an
otherwise residential neighborhood of South Trenton employed 1,200 workers and manufactured
hundreds of thousands of dolls every year, earning the nickname “World’s
Largest Doll House.” “Not many people
realize it, but if you purchased a doll from 1930 to 1960 it was probably made
here in Trenton,” says Nicholas Ciotola, curator of cultural history at the New
Jersey State Museum in Trenton, where an exhibit called Toy World is running just steps away from the Horsman factory. (The exhibit, in the Riverside Gallery from 15
October 2016-30 April 2017, focuses on the toys manufactured in New Jersey
during the 20th century. I went down to Trenton to see it on 7 February so I
could check out the Regal and Horsman displays.)
By the
1940s, Horsman Doll was a great success on the basis of its moderately priced, good-quality,
baby dolls that little girls loved. (It
was my mother’s hard luck that she had two sons and no daughters on whom she
could lavish Horsman dolls every Christmas and birthday. The attic of the house in which my brother
and I grew up was half-filled with boxed Horsman dolls for our female cousins
and the daughters of my parents’ friends—but none for her own children. Aunt Bobby, on the other hand, had two
daughters—the youngest one named Judith.)
The beautiful baby dolls came without fancy names (the child got to name
her dolly whatever she wanted; the box didn’t provide a name) or marketing
gimmicks, but dressed in lovely doll clothes. (My grandfather was color-blind but he could
tell fine fabric and excellent workmanship; he just needed employees to help
him pick out the colors. In fact, he had
the same problem with his own clothes—and sometimes his socks and trousers or
jackets and ties really clashed. But
they were made from top-quality fabrics!)
During
World War II, shortages of raw materials dealt the American toy industry a
serious blow. Some essential supplies
were imported from overseas, including Axis territory and occupied countries. Kapok, for example, a fiber from the
silk-cotton tree used for stuffing doll bodies, came principally from the
Japanese-occupied Dutch East Indies—and, of course, shipping of any kind was at
risk. Most domestic materials, like the
mohair for doll wigs and metal for sleep-eye mechanisms, were diverted to war
industries, so little remained available for toy manufacturers. Some toy companies began making products for
the war effort. Horsman was able to
continue making some dolls, but the Chambersburg factory turned part of its manufacturing
floor over to soft vinyl prostheses, such as artificial hands for amputee
veterans. After the war, most doll-makers
scrambled to return to the production of dolls, but Horsman capitalized on its
wartime experience with vinyl.
For all
its advantages as doll-making material, composition was difficult to work with
and it was hard to the touch. Vinyl was
a soft, easily-molded, durable, unbreakable plastic that could be sculpted into
lifelike faces and was pleasing to a little girl’s touch. It was the perfect doll material and Horsman
was a pioneer in its use in the doll industry.
It wasn’t the first doll firm to use plastic, though in 1947 it was the
first to do so on a large scale. From
the post-war years until my family relinquished control of Horsman for the
final time (I’ll get to this), its dolls were made with vinyl heads.
In the
1950s, Horsman developed an even more flexible material it dubbed Super-Flex,
used for the dolls’ bodies, which for the composite dolls had been made of
stuffed fabric and for the all-vinyl dolls were soft plastic that allowed for only
minimal manipulation. Super-Flex
permitted the dolls’ knees and elbows to be bent so the dolls could be posed in
many different ways. Later in the ’50s,
Horsman introduced further advancements in the dolls’ vinyl skin, giving it an
even more like-like feel.
In the
same decade, the company introduced Polly, an African-American doll. (A Polly was included in the NJSM
exhibit.) Horsman wasn’t the first
doll-manufacturer to market a black doll—there were African-American dolls
available in the 19th and early 20th centuries—but most of the earlier African-American
dolls were merely models of the companies’ standard dolls from white molds painted
dark brown. Horsman’s Polly was an
attempt to create a black doll with more realistic features. She was sold from the mid-’50s through the
1970s and ’80s (the latter years by a derivative company that had duplicated
Horsman’s original products).
Horsman
dolls were seldom sold under the company name in the ’50s and ’60s.
Horsman made most of its dolls for retailers like Sears, Montgomery
Ward, Gimbels, and Macys and packaged them under the stores’ names. (Occasionally, I’d hear the name Horsman Doll
on a TV show which used them as giveaways for game-show contestants or participants. I recall that Art Linkletter, 1912-2010, gave
away Horsman dolls on his variety and kiddie TV shows between 1950 and 1969. I always had a little twinge of pride when
Linkletter would announce that all the girls on the show would receive a
Horsman doll as a gift from the show. I
don’t remember what the boys got.)
By the
1950s, however, Harry Freedman and his now-partner, Larry Lipson, saw that the
doll company had grown to its limit. It
had supported the Freedmans and the Lipsons very well, but it wasn’t going to
get any bigger. Horsman made only baby dolls;
it didn’t make “action figures” for boys or any other toys (not since the
original Horsman family years) and it didn’t diversify its factory to make
other plastic items (aside from that wartime foray). Like most toy businesses, Horsman’s one big
sales period, when it made its annual profit, was Christmas; the rest of the
year, business dragged until it was time to gear up for the holiday gift
season—and that wasn’t going to change.
Larry Lipson’s son, Gerald (1925-88), would take over the business when
his father retired, just as Larry had taken over for Harry—but Gerry’s children
were disinclined to run the company and Harry’s grandchildren (there were four
of us: my brother and me, and Aunt Bobby’s two daughters) were still little
kids. So the shareholders—the Freedman
and Lipson families and a few key Horsman employees, made the decision to sell
the company. A conglomerate, Botany Industries,
purchased Horsman Dolls in 1957 in a period of expansion.
I’m no
businessman (and I was very young at the time), but as I understood it later,
the deal, in which my father, by then a
member of Horsman’s board of directors, was instrumental, was standard. Botany agreed to pay off the purchase price
over several years, a decade I believe, and if at any point during that period
the buyer defaulted on the payments, Botany would forfeit all the money it had
paid up to that time and the company would revert to the sellers. And that’s what happened sometime in the
early ’60s—1961 or ’62 as I recall.
Botany had decided that it had over-expanded and over-diversified and
had to divest of several smaller acquisitions and downsize (though that term
wasn’t in general use quite yet). So
after paying off nearly the entire purchase price for Horsman, Botany backed
out of the sale and the Freedmans and the Lipsons got the company back. I tell people that this is the only real-life
instance of which I’ve ever heard of someone actually having their cake and
eating it, too.
Not
long after that trip to Columbia, the families put the company on the block
again. Gerry Lipson was retiring and no
one from either the Lipson or Freedman families was qualified (or interested) to
assume control. This time, Drew
Industries, another conglomerate, bought Horsman—but the terms of the sale were
a little different. Drew issued
promissory notes to the shareholders (which now included my two cousins, my
brother, and me as a result of the death of Harry’s widow, our maternal
grandmother, Valerie, 1900-74, whose estate, with the Horsman shares she’d
inherited from Grandpa Harry, went to her grandchildren) that became due over
just a few years. When the purchase was
concluded, Horsman Dolls became Drew Dolls, under which name it produced dolls
for a few more years, and then Drew Industries liquidated the company and
Horsman Dolls, one of the last companies to manufacture dolls in the United
States and never made them abroad, passed out of existence. The dolls from both Regal (including the Judy
Girl, Bobby Anne Dolls, and Polly) and Horsman are now all collectors’ items and there are
books on them and the companies.
As a
coda, in 1986 the Horsman name was sold—I guess by Drew—to Gatabox, Limited, of
Hong Hong, which produced dolls, including reproductions of Horsman classics,
under the name Horsman, Limited. The new
company has no connection to either the original E. I. Horsman company or to my
grandfather’s business—Gata just bought the name. That company dissolved in 2002 but was succeeded
by a new corporation known as Horsman, Limited, headquartered in Great Neck, New
York, on Long Island and it continues to market dolls, but they’re made in Hong
Kong now.
When I came here to live in New York, I tried to see as many shows as I
could, taking an acting classmate with me whenever I could, until we sold the
company for the last time. (I knew the
sale was coming, probably sooner rather than later, so I was bound to take
advantage of the privilege as much as I could before I lost it.) I figured I ought to spread the wealth around
a little. After all, I wasn’t paying for
the tix out of my pocket (they were coming out of my inheritance, in a manner
of speaking), but it wasn’t a freebie. The
producers, and therefore the artists, were getting paid, so everyone was
benefitting. When we sold Horsman to
Drew, I lost that perk and had to cut way back on Broadway theatergoing. Broadway ticket prices had gone way up and
for the cost of one Broadway seat I could see two or three Off-Broadway productions
or more than a half dozen Off-Off-Broadway shows. It was a deprivation I sorely lamented—the one
thing Horsman Dolls gave me that I really appreciated while I had it.
* * * *
Aside from a nice inheritance from my
grandfather and a comfortable life growing up because Grandpa Harry engineered
a good job for my father after World War II, I didn’t derive any direct benefit
from Horsman Dolls. My two cousins, Aunt
Bobby’s daughters, may have had plenty of dolls to play with when they were
little girls—and, of course, their father had a good job at the company until
he and my aunt split up, but the doll company was never a huge presence in my
life. As a kid, I got some fun out of my
dad’s job. I thought it was kind of neat
in the 1950s that he ran a movie-theater company and I got to go to the movies
for free a lot and treat my friends—all the theater companies in Washington
gave passes to their competitors—and that was thanks to Grandpa Harry, although
I really didn’t think of it that way back then.
It was just Dad’s work.
But there was one benny I got from Horsman
that I really took advantage of from time to time—and quite a bit when I moved
to New York City after the army. The
company had a ticket broker on retainer for the sales staff so they could take
buyers to Broadway shows. The broker
could get seats to just about any show, even ones that were otherwise hard to
get into and was an effective way to entertain Horsman clients. The company made this service available to
the families, and when we came to New York, my parents would get tix for the
big shows like My Fair Lady, The Sound of Music, and Camelot. (I wrote about this in my post “A Broadway
Baby,” 22 September 2010.) Later, when I was old enough to come to New
York on my own, from prep school in New Jersey or college in Virginia, I used
the Horsman perk. One spring break, I
took my two college apartmentmates and another frat brother, all New Yorkers, to
three plays, two Broadway shows (Man of La Mancha, The Impossible Years)
and my first Off-Broadway drama (Ceremonies in Dark Old Men), courtesy of Horsman Dolls.
My mother worked @ the horseman plant in Cayce West Columbia for many years until they shut down
ReplyDeleteVery interesting. I only visited the Columbia factory once, in about 1974, when I was seeing some friends in the city. The company was sold to Drew Industries soon after that and was liquidated a few years later. (The plant was built when Horsman was owned by Botany, who moved the manufacturing process from Trenton in 1960.)
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I worked for Horsman Dolls (Columbia, SC) for five years in the late 70's and early 80's. I worked second shift for a while and that was a scary place at night. There were only 8 or so people working at night and the monorails full of doll heads looked like a horror movie. I worked in almost every department as a floater. I worked in molding, painting, sewed hair on the heads (my favorite and most pay), set eyes, ironed and dressed, and boxed. I loved working there. I was offered a job at NCR and left Horsman because I thought computers would be around longer than the doll factory and some of the women who had worked there for years had arthritis so bad that their hands were drawn up. It was a good experience and pretty decent pay. It was production work. Thanks for the history lesson.
ReplyDeleteThanks for commenting. I assume you realize that my family connection with Horsman had ended before you worked there. It wasn't long after you left that Drew Industries liquidated the company.
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I have a 50 year old horsemen baby doll in the original clothing! Don’t know the value of my baby but I have kept it all this time!
DeleteSounds wonderful. I can't tell you anything about the doll's possible value, but I know a lot of Horsman dolls (note that the name's spelt with no e's) are on the 'Net. If you're curious, you might find some indication of the sale price of the doll that way.
DeleteThanks for writing.
~Rick
My mom worked for the Horseman Plant in Cayce sc her name is joann rainwater she passed away a year ago and im trying to find out when she started and when the plant shut down I was a little girl then thank you and have a great day my Gmail is ann.rainwater1073@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid I can't help you. I had little contact with the company after my grandfather's death in 1967 and none at all after Horsman was sold in the 1970s. Since the original company, which became Drew Dolls, folded soon after the purchase, I can't even suggest how to find out anything about its later years. If Horsman/Drew's business records were reposited in some archive, I don't know where that would be. I'm sorry I can't help you.
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Ann, I think the factory closed in the summer of 1986 or '87. If you are still in the area you may be able to find some information on the closing at the Richland Library, go speak to Debbie Bloom in the local history room.
ReplyDeleteExcellent suggestion. Local history departments in both public and university libraries are troves of useful information. Some will also help you out by e-mail if you don't live nearby.
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So I have a question. My nana had a doll from the Horsman company. Was there a doll named Peggy/Princess Peggy? And was there a story behind that named doll?
ReplyDeleteSorry, AJ, I don't know the answer to your question about Peggy or Peggy Princess dolls from Horsman. I'm not an expert, but I have never heard the name mentioned. I assume you've checked the Internet; since Horsman and Regal dolls have become collectors' items, most of them have some kind of presence on the 'Net.
Delete(The only doll about which I heard a story when I was growing up was the one about the Judy Doll--because I asked my mom about that. Anything else I learned came from research.)
~Rick
Thank you. Ive been looking around for all kinds of information on Horsman dolls. Something had happened with her doll, and I've been kind of investigating I suppose. But from what I read, I gathered quite a bit of information.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome, AJ. I'm sorry I couldn't be much help, but I'm glad you're finding some information.
DeleteOur interests in Horsman Dolls differs rather widely, of course. Mine is because it was my family's business, but I have no interest in the dolls themselves. (Neither my brother nor I ever owned one, as you might guess--though our attic was filled with them, as gifts for female cousins and daughters of friends of my parents.)
Thanks for commenting.
~Rick
Rick,
ReplyDeleteThis is so interesting. I was aware of some of the history of the company but not all.
Gerry Lipson's second wife was the sister of my mother's best friend. (They met in NYC in the late 50s.) Our families were close and from time to time I would receive dolls as gifts.
Through that connection, he got to know my father - who was in linen supply at the time.
In 1979 he hired my father to run the doll factory in Cayce and my family relocated to SC. Daddy stayed with Horsman through the acquisition by Drew and then he and my mother moved back north.
My father passed away a few years ago. I was thinking of him today and something made me Google Horsman. I'm glad I did.
I'm glad you did, too, columbiacitygirl. And I'm glad you wrote in.
DeleteMy mother, Harry Freedman's elder daughter and the namesake of the Judy Girl doll, died in 2015, the last member of my family who had a connection to Horsman. When I went to the Toy World exhibit in Trenton, I also went by the house my mother's family lived in in those days; it's right near the State Museum, and I wanted to see where my mother grew up.
I always envied my girl cousins and the daughters of my parents' friends when I was little--because they got Horsman dolls as presents. It wasn't that I wanted a doll to play with, but it seemed unfair that they all got something from my family business and I didn't. I kept wondering why Horsman wouldn't make stuffed animals or Roy Rogers and Robin Hood figures--my brother and I played with those. It seemed like a good idea to me!
Now I'm thinking about trying to buy a Judy Girl and Bobby Anne doll--but for totally different reasons.
~Rick
Hey columbiacitygirl (or Rick!) One of you might be able to help me solve a mystery. My best friend and I love to go exploring through the woods around Pine Ridge SC as well as near Cayce. We happened upon an area roughly about a radius of half a mile completely strewn with doll parts! It's rather deep in the woods and happens to be near a very deep gorge. The dolls seem to have been there for at least a couple decades since they're now stuck in the side of the gorge. I think they may be from the factory. Now I'm curious to know how they got there. Where was the factory in Cayce? It may be close by.
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DeleteI have no idea about this. I visited the factory once in the 1970s, when I visited a former army buddy who was then stationed at Ft. Jackson--but that was the one and only time I'd been in Columbia.
A few years after that, we sold the company and I no longer had any connection to Horsman Dolls (which then became Drew Dolls and then ceased to exist at all).
~Rick
A lady I know Mrs Peggy Conner worked in Cayce,SC for 20 years has many interesting stories about the different functions at the plant - putting earrings etc ♥️
ReplyDeleteShirley and Lanny Brazell--
DeleteVery interesting. Thank you for commenting.
~Rick
Hi Rick,
ReplyDeleteAt the Trenton City Museum at Ellarslie I now have a display case of Horseman Dolls (December-January 2020). I have also built a virtual display on our website: https://ellarslie.org/trentons-christmas-past-2020-exhibit/ I have taken your blog and taken extracts from it to make it less personal for the site. In my research of Horsman, I found an error in your blog. You stated that Regal acquires the bankrupt Horsman factory in Trenton for their operations. While in fact, it was Regal who first buys a factory in Trenton for their operations and later buys the bakrupt Horsman who up until then had no operations in Trenton. I could send you the newspaper article from the Trenton Times proving these sequence of events.
Sincerely
Karl Flesch
Mr. Flesch:
DeleteThanks for the information.
My research on the subject--and I'd have to review my notes to find the source--showed that Horsman (NB: no 'e') bought the Trenton factory but never moved in. Regal bought the unused plant from Horsman as well as the company's name.
I'll check out your website. Do you have a Judy Girl or Bobby Anne Doll in the show?
~Rick
My grandfather was David Uchill, the V.P. of Sales at Horsman during the 60's and 70's. I remember him coming with his big black rolling sample cases to visit the buyer from Sears, etc. He moved with the whole collection of folks down to Florida when they all retired. (I still have a copy of a patent in my grandfathers name for a beating heart mechanism to go inside a doll)
ReplyDeleteMr. Calica:
DeleteThe '60s and '70s were still during my family's connection to Horsman. My dad was on the board in most of those years.
I assume, if your grandfather was a V.P., that his office was here in New York, at the Toy Center South (200 Fifth Ave.) That's just a few blocks north of where I live now!
I never heard of a beating heart for a Horsman doll (or any doll, for that matter). Whatever came of that development? Fascinating.
Thank you for writing in. Creating this post was one of my favorite blog efforts.
~Rick
Rick,
DeleteThat was absolutely the time when my grandfather was there. And yes, that was the location.
Drop me an email and I'll send you some pics of the documents I have. I also have some of the old dolls in their boxes left from my grandfather.
Ben (ben@d20alameda.com)
Do you remember the little troll dolls they made that had the flashlights inside?
I was given a baby doll for my first birthday in 1967. I had this doll (I I named her Wiggles) until I was around 5 years old. Her cloth body became soiled (I was a bed wetter and she was a victim of circumstance) and my mother didn’t know how to clean her so she was put out with the trash. I am now 56 years old and have been trying to identify what brand my doll was by matching the two fading photos I have of me holding her as a child. At first I thought she may be a Vogue Baby Dear but realized from matching the hands she was not. I have never found what I deemed to be an exact match to wiggles but I am almost certain she is a Horsman doll. I will never give up the search online, at thrift stores and estate sales for her. I have been a doll lover my entire life. After Wiggles was gone I attached to a Raggedy Ann doll that I still have with the pins holing her arms on from spinning her around in circles like we were in a meadow of flowers. If you know anyone that could view the photos of my doll to help me identify her as a Horsman it would be so great. I enjoyed reading this blog immensely.
ReplyDeleteI'm awfully sorry, Ms. Ray, but I don't. I'm not in touch with anyone in that field and no one in my family is left who had anything to do with Horsman.
DeleteGood luck in your search.
~Rick
Thank you for responding to me. My search will continue.
DeleteGood luck. I hope you find the answer.
Delete~Rick
K. Ray the doll you called wiggles is likely the horsman tweaks doll some had windup in back ...some dint ..mine did & im sure that may be why u called her wiggles...good luck I've seen a few with same face as mine & only one listed with the windup
DeleteI have to say that I have my doubts that the Horsman Dolls with which my family was associated ever made a doll with any kind of wind-up. If your dolls had the Horsman name on them, perhaps they were Botany or Drew products, after we sold the company.
Delete~Rick
I have somewhere in my belongings a Horsman Doll Medallion. It is about 3" in diameter and about 1/4" thick. It appears to be solid brass. I have never seen another one on the internet nor heard anything about it. Could this be a dealer/salesman coin/medal? I wish I knew where it was, I would send a photo.
ReplyDeleteT.
T:
DeleteI've never heard of such an item, but your suggestion sounds possible. It's far outside anything I know anything about, however.
~Rick
I just baught a horsman 1972 doll at goodwill tonight and I can't find it's story! Lol It's like a "my buddy" style doll but all the others say they were made in 1973. I cam here try8ng to find this dolls story and found this article. Was a fascinating read. Would love to see if you know wtf this doll is lol if you'd be willing to look at it? Anyway. Tha KS for the good read. My email is Keri.toft@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteKeri--
ReplyDeleteI can't tell you much. As I wrote in the post, I wasn't much involved in the Horsman business.
I can intimate from the dates you provide that the doll you have may be a Drew Doll. Drew Industries bought Horsman at about that time in the early '70s.
In any case, it would have been around the change-over--either the end of the Freedman-Lipson ownership or the beginning of the Drew ownership.
That's the best I can do for you.
~Rick
Hi we got a horsman doll from 1924 we would like to know so more info about her please contact 0744227473 / 0765375816 or whatsapp
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry to say that I can't be of any help with this. I put pretty much everything I know or could dig up about Horsman in the post--and I never had one of Horsman's dolls. There's not even anybody left whom I can ask.
DeleteRegretfully,
~Rick